, they renounce violence, use security forces to go after the militants and he's gone so far in recent interviews to admit the palestinians would concede their right to return to the land they or their families held before 1948 inside what is now israel. in return for this, he has seen basically nothing. except for the continued settlement. when they took over the p.a., there were 250,000 settlers in the west bank. today, there are 350,000. assume, for the sake of argument, for a moment, hamas targets israeli civilians because of a cult of death, but a tactic to achieve certain things. this idea that terrorism is adopted by certain groups was articulated by a young state senator at a book event in 2004. >> ultimately, terrorism is a tactic. it's not -- we're not fighting terrorists, we are fighting people who engage in terrorism. but, have a whole host of rationals and excuses for why they do this and to the extent we can change this sense of opportunity in these countries and we can change the manner in which we function in these countries and more positive, proactive ways, then we are not going